intake manifold absolute pressure

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this map is intake manifold absolute pressure map?
 

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this map is intake manifold absolute pressure map?

Looking at the data in your screenshot, no, this is most likely not an intake manifold absolute pressure (MAP) map.

Here's why:

  • The values start at 600 in the lower load/RPM area and scale up to 25000+ at high load/RPM. These values are far too large to represent manifold pressure directly (MAP is typically 0–2550 mbar or 0–255 kPa in most ECUs).
  • The pattern — low values at idle/low load, increasing progressively with both RPM (columns) and load (rows) — is more characteristic of a fuel injection quantity or torque/load request map.

This looks more like one of the following:

  • Desired injection quantity map (mg/stroke or mm³/stroke) — very common in diesel ECUs
  • Driver demand / torque request map
  • Airflow or charge target map (if gasoline)

To help you identify it precisely, could you share:

  • ECU type (Bosch EDC17, MED17, Siemens, Delphi, etc.)?
  • Vehicle make/model/engine/year?
  • Which tuning software are you using (WinOLS, ECM Titanium, etc.)?
  • The map address or label name if available?

With that info I can tell you exactly which map this is.
 

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Looking at the data in your screenshot, no, this is most likely not an intake manifold absolute pressure (MAP) map.

Here's why:

  • The values start at 600 in the lower load/RPM area and scale up to 25000+ at high load/RPM. These values are far too large to represent manifold pressure directly (MAP is typically 0–2550 mbar or 0–255 kPa in most ECUs).
  • The pattern — low values at idle/low load, increasing progressively with both RPM (columns) and load (rows) — is more characteristic of a fuel injection quantity or torque/load request map.

This looks more like one of the following:

  • Desired injection quantity map (mg/stroke or mm³/stroke) — very common in diesel ECUs
  • Driver demand / torque request map
  • Airflow or charge target map (if gasoline)

To help you identify it precisely, could you share:

  • ECU type (Bosch EDC17, MED17, Siemens, Delphi, etc.)?
  • Vehicle make/model/engine/year?
  • Which tuning software are you using (WinOLS, ECM Titanium, etc.)?
  • The map address or label name if available?

With that info I can tell you exactly which map this is.
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如果你的 X/Y 都是“原始坐标/未换算”(没经过转换),那也正好能解释为啥数值看起来不像 MAP:很多 ECU 的标尺需要按标定参数去换算(例如把行/列坐标从 raw 转成 kPa/mbar,或再做线性/非线性换算)。

但仅凭你说的“4023”以及“X/Y没转换”,我还不能100%确认它是不是 IAT(进气温度)或 MAP(进气歧管压力)图。

你把下面信息补一下,我就能直接判断:

  • 这张表的“行/列标题”分别是什么?(例如:X 轴=RPMY 轴=mg/stroke 或者 mbar/kPa 字样)
  • 表内任意取3个点:比如低转速低负荷时的值是多少,中负荷时是多少,高负荷时是多少
  • 你用的是什么软件读的(WinOLS/ECM等)?有没有“量纲/换算”字段或引导的标定公式?
  • 如果表是 MAP,你期望的单位通常是 kPa/mbar;你这里表内值的范围(最小~最大)是多少?

你也可以直接再发一张:把这张表的 X/Y 坐标和表内数值范围截完整(不要只截到某个单元格)。我就可以按常见 ECU 标定格式给你定论。
 

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Looking at the data in your screenshot, no, this is most likely not an intake manifold absolute pressure (MAP) map.

Here's why:

  • The values start at 600 in the lower load/RPM area and scale up to 25000+ at high load/RPM. These values are far too large to represent manifold pressure directly (MAP is typically 0–2550 mbar or 0–255 kPa in most ECUs).
  • The pattern — low values at idle/low load, increasing progressively with both RPM (columns) and load (rows) — is more characteristic of a fuel injection quantity or torque/load request map.

This looks more like one of the following:

  • Desired injection quantity map (mg/stroke or mm³/stroke) — very common in diesel ECUs
  • Driver demand / torque request map
  • Airflow or charge target map (if gasoline)

To help you identify it precisely, could you share:

  • ECU type (Bosch EDC17, MED17, Siemens, Delphi, etc.)?
  • Vehicle make/model/engine/year?
  • Which tuning software are you using (WinOLS, ECM Titanium, etc.)?
  • The map address or label name if available?

With that info I can tell you exactly which map this is.
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med17.9.9 tuning by winols
 

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med17.9.9 tuning by winols

MED17.9.9 + WinOLS 的 MAP(进气歧管压力,实际或目标)通常有这些特征(尤其是你说 X/Y 都没换算的情况):

1) X/Y 物理量通常不会是直接“原始 600~25000”这种全表量级
  • MAP如果是 kPa/mbar 标尺,量级一般在 ~20~250 kPa(或折算后的 mbar范围),不会到 2万~3万 这种直接数值。
  • 当然也存在“原始计数值”,但那通常会对应固定换算公式,并且表里会更贴近 ECU 的内部标定关系。

2) 你之前说的值从低负荷/低转速到高负荷/高转速逐步升高
这种形状更像 需求/计量类(扭矩请求、喷油量目标、空气量目标、EGR/负荷相关)或 电控内部的等效量,不太像“压力本体”的量纲。

结论(在缺少坐标轴/标尺信息前)
仅凭“4023”和你这点信息,我更倾向它不是直接的 MAP(进气歧管绝压)表

但要100%确认,需要你给我两样关键数据:
  • 在 WinOLS 里这张表的 行/列标题(X轴=什么、Y轴=什么),哪怕是原始未换算的也行(例如:X轴=Load或RPM、Y轴=mg/stroke或kPa raw等)
  • 把表的 X/Y 坐标数组表内最小/最大值 截一下(或直接列出前3个、后3个坐标值)

你直接把 WinOLS 里这张表的 Axis 名称 + 数组 + 值范围贴出来,我就能告诉你它到底是:MAP、还是 MAF/空气目标、扭矩请求、喷油量/扭矩相关等。
 
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