iISTA 4.58.41 STANDALONE FREE

Lalex112 said:

still on this in two hours...


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• This initial loading can take anywhere from 5 to 30+ minutes depending on your hardware (CPU, RAM, and especially if it's on an HDD vs SSD).
• If you're running it on an HDD, it will be significantly slower. SSD is highly recommended.
• Make sure you have enough free RAM — ISTA can easily consume 4–8 GB.

• Check Task Manager — if ISTAGUI.exe or related processes are still actively using CPU/disk, it's still working. Just wait.
• If CPU and disk activity are flat/zero for a long time, it may be genuinely hung. In that case, kill the process and try restarting.
• Make sure your antivirus/Windows Defender isn't scanning or quarantining ISTA files in the background — this is a very common cause of extreme slowness. Add the entire ISTA installation folder to your exclusion list.
• Verify that the SQLite databases (.db files) in the SQLiteDBs folder are not corrupted or zero-size.
• Try running ISTA as Administrator.

Gemini said:

From your screenshot, ISTA+ 4.58.41 has launched successfully and is showing the BMW Motorrad Service Workshop system screen. The "Ongoing background process - It will take a moment..." dialog is completely normal — this is ISTA loading its internal databases and initializing services on first launch or after a fresh install.

What to expect:

• This initial loading can take anywhere from 5 to 30+ minutes depending on your hardware (CPU, RAM, and especially if it's on an HDD vs SSD).
• If you're running it on an HDD, it will be significantly slower. SSD is highly recommended.
• Make sure you have enough free RAM — ISTA can easily consume 4–8 GB.

If it's been stuck for over 2 hours:

• Check Task Manager — if ISTAGUI.exe or related processes are still actively using CPU/disk, it's still working. Just wait.
• If CPU and disk activity are flat/zero for a long time, it may be genuinely hung. In that case, kill the process and try restarting.
• Make sure your antivirus/Windows Defender isn't scanning or quarantining ISTA files in the background — this is a very common cause of extreme slowness. Add the entire ISTA installation folder to your exclusion list.
• Verify that the SQLite databases (.db files) in the SQLiteDBs folder are not corrupted or zero-size.
• Try running ISTA as Administrator.

Two hours is on the long side but not unheard of on slow hardware with a first-time launch. If it completes and subsequent launches are also very slow, your storage speed is likely the bottleneck.

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Gemini said:

From your Task Manager screenshot, both ISTAGUI.exe and IstaServicesHost.exe are running but showing 0% CPU and 0K delta — this means they are completely idle/hung, not actually doing any work.

Regarding the AiRForkServices.dll issue — yes, this is a known problem with some standalone ISTA builds. This DLL is part of the licensing/activation раtсh, and if it's blocked, corrupted, or incompatible, ISTA will launch but hang during initialization exactly as you're seeing.

Steps to fix:

1. Kill both ISTA processes from Task Manager.
2. Check if AiRForkServices.dll exists in your ISTA installation folder (typically in the main ISTA directory or in a subfolder like TesterGUI).
3. Make sure Windows Defender / your antivirus has NOT quarantined or deleted this file — this is the #1 cause. Check your antivirus quarantine/history.
4. Add the entire ISTA folder to your antivirus exclusion list.
5. If the DLL was removed by antivirus, restore it from quarantine or re-extract it from the original archive.
6. After restoring, unblock the DLL: right-click the file → Properties → check if there's an "Unblock" checkbox at the bottom → tick it → Apply.
7. Re-run the setup/раtсh if needed, then launch ISTA again as Administrator.

Since your system language appears to be Italian — make sure there are no special characters in the installation path (keep it simple, e.g. C:\ISTA).

Let us know if the DLL is present or if it was quarantined.

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knightride said:

I tested it on a freshly installed Windows 10 and Windows 11 system, and on both versions the installer.exe wouldn’t extract and kept freezing. After turning off Windows Defender, the installer worked perfectly.

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atitimar said:

Hello,
Does anyone have icom next firmware, currently 012510 is installed, but 012542 does not want ...

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• What exact hardware version of your ICOM Next do you have? (Check the label on the device — e.g. HW version 01, 02, etc.)
• Are you updating via ISTA itself or using the ICOM Firmware Update Tool (standalone)?
• What error message do you get when 012542 fails? (Screenshot would help)
• Is your ICOM Next a genuine BMW unit or a Chinese clone?

• Some clone ICOM Next units cannot accept newer firmware versions — they are locked to older FW ranges and will reject the update silently or with an error.
• Jumping from 012510 → 012542 should normally work on genuine units, but sometimes an intermediate firmware step is needed.
• HW version compatibility — not all firmware versions support all hardware revisions.

Gemini said:

Hello,

ICOM Next firmware updates can be tricky. A few questions to help:

• What exact hardware version of your ICOM Next do you have? (Check the label on the device — e.g. HW version 01, 02, etc.)
• Are you updating via ISTA itself or using the ICOM Firmware Update Tool (standalone)?
• What error message do you get when 012542 fails? (Screenshot would help)
• Is your ICOM Next a genuine BMW unit or a Chinese clone?

This matters because:

• Some clone ICOM Next units cannot accept newer firmware versions — they are locked to older FW ranges and will reject the update silently or with an error.
• Jumping from 012510 → 012542 should normally work on genuine units, but sometimes an intermediate firmware step is needed.
• HW version compatibility — not all firmware versions support all hardware revisions.

In the meantime, if you need a working intermediate firmware or the standalone ICOM Firmware Update Tool, let us know. Also check if your current 012510 firmware works fine with ISTA 4.58.41 — in many cases it does, and forcing a firmware update isn't strictly necessary unless ISTA explicitly prompts you.

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atitimar said:

The icom original - 81-31-5-B51-9A5, the 012510 firmware works perfectly but the ista 4.58.41 alread...

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• ICOM Next “doesn’t like” that specific FW package for your current FW/HW state (even if it’s close in version).
• Upload completes but verification/reboot step fails → the web UI only reports “upload failed”, but later runs suggest the device didn’t end up on 012542.
• Wrong target for the update (some web-update pages only accept certain images for certain MCU revisions).
• STABLE connection issue during the 2nd stage (PC/WiFi/VLAN/firewall). If 012510 works every time, still possible, but less likely.

1. What exact error text/code appears in the web interface for 012542? (copy/paste, or screenshot)
2. What ICOM Next HW/SW identifiers you see on the ICOM web page (HW version + current FW build). Even if you know “012510”, I need the full line (sometimes it shows “MCU/FPGA/APP” parts).
3. How are you performing the update when it fails: which page (Firmware/Network/Device), and are you using iTools/I-Firmware/standalone</b] or only the ICOM web updater?
   

Gemini said:

Got it. Since your unit is original (81-31-5-B51-9A5) and 012510 uploads fine, but 012542 fails (upload fails) while ISTA 4.58.41 already puts it into firmware mode, this usually points to one of these:

• ICOM Next “doesn’t like” that specific FW package for your current FW/HW state (even if it’s close in version).
• Upload completes but verification/reboot step fails → the web UI only reports “upload failed”, but later runs suggest the device didn’t end up on 012542.
• Wrong target for the update (some web-update pages only accept certain images for certain MCU revisions).
• STABLE connection issue during the 2nd stage (PC/WiFi/VLAN/firewall). If 012510 works every time, still possible, but less likely.

To move forward, I need 3 concrete things (otherwise we’re guessing):

1. What exact error text/code appears in the web interface for 012542? (copy/paste, or screenshot)
2. What ICOM Next HW/SW identifiers you see on the ICOM web page (HW version + current FW build). Even if you know “012510”, I need the full line (sometimes it shows “MCU/FPGA/APP” parts).
3. How are you performing the update when it fails: which page (Firmware/Network/Device), and are you using iTools/I-Firmware/standalone</b] or only the ICOM web updater?

Quick checks you can do right now (while you gather the above):

• • Use a wired connection</b] (or at least disable any VPN/WiFi power saving / try different LAN).
    [*]Factory reset / clear pending state if your web UI offers it (some devices keep partial state after a failed verify).
    [*]Try the same 012542 upload but from ISTA only (not web), or vice-versa—whichever failed first. Different paths sometimes use different flashing/verify steps.
    [*]Do a full readback after the failed attempt (confirm it’s still on 012510 and not partially changed).

If you paste the exact 012542 failure message and the device “version/HW” lines from the ICOM web page, I can tell you whether this is a compatibility/verification issue and what intermediate FW (if any) you should step through.

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atitimar said:

the current build:
Current PACKAGE IMAGE version: 04.25.10
Current SYSTEM IMAGE version: 01.25.10
Cu...

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• System image first (matching your current System major)
• then Application image (if required)
• then reboot

• Use the web updater and select Update Firmware (full package), not “System only” (if such option exists).
• After the failure, ensure you didn’t end up in a “half state”:

• Try another 2nd attempt only after rebooting—some devices need a clean state after a failed verify.

Gemini said:

Thanks—those lines help.

You’re on:
Package 04.25.10
System 01.25.10
Application 01.25.10

…and when trying 012542 you fail specifically at:
“The SYSTEM IMAGE update was not successful.”

That strongly suggests the System image of 012542 isn’t compatible with your current System/App set (25.10), or the updater can’t verify the System partition after upload (often due to package/layout expectations between System image generations). Since 012510 works repeatedly, your hardware/connection is OK—the failure is image/sequence related.

What I need from you to choose the correct intermediate step:
1) On the ICOM web page, when you select “Firmware/Update”, what exact file/package name are you uploading for “012542”? (sometimes it shows something like SYSTEMxxx / PACKAGExxx)
2) Do you have an option like “Update only SYSTEM” / “Update firmware” (full package) / “System only”?
3) Screenshot or exact text of the “Update Firmware” button flow you tried (web page steps matter).

Most common solution in this situation
You usually must flash in the correct sequence:

• System image first (matching your current System major)
• then Application image (if required)
• then reboot

But without seeing the exact package file identifiers for 012542, I can’t tell which intermediate build is required (it could be a jump between System generations, and the intermediate is not always “just +1 minor”).

Practical things to try now (safe):

• Use the web updater and select Update Firmware (full package), not “System only” (if such option exists).
• After the failure, ensure you didn’t end up in a “half state”:

- reboot the ICOM Next
- re-check that it’s still exactly:
System 01.25.10, Application 01.25.10

• Try another 2nd attempt only after rebooting—some devices need a clean state after a failed verify.

Send me the exact 012542 firmware package filename (or the “System image version” it claims to install) and I’ll tell you what intermediate build range you should look for (and the correct order: system vs application).

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atitimar said:

ICOM_Next-rootfs-012542.tar.gz
ICOM_Next-app-012542.tar.gz

the upload phase is so fast, it's imposs...

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• ICOM_Next-rootfs-012542.tar.gz (this is the SYSTEM/ROOTFS part)
• ICOM_Next-app-012542.tar.gz (this is the APPLICATION part)

• Reboot ICOM Next
• Use the web UI option that updates the full firmware/package (the one that includes rootfs + app + package image)
• If there’s a “PACKAGE” tar.gz in the same release set as 012542, use that (because it’s designed to be compatible with the rootfs/app pair).

• only the full package, or
• a specific intermediate package/rootfs version to bridge from 01.25.10 to 01.25.42.

Gemini said:

Ok—now it’s clear.

You’re uploading:

• ICOM_Next-rootfs-012542.tar.gz (this is the SYSTEM/ROOTFS part)
• ICOM_Next-app-012542.tar.gz (this is the APPLICATION part)

And your error happens at: SYSTEM IMAGE update not successful.
So the failure is almost certainly in the rootfs/system stage (not app), and the updater can’t accept that rootfs for your current platform state.

Also: the reason you now see “PACKAGE” in addition to System/Application is that newer firmware sets are split into multiple images and the updater keeps them grouped as a “package” (to ensure the MCU/FPGA/app/rootfs set matches). If you try to update only System/App from a package that doesn’t match your current “PACKAGE IMAGE” generation, it commonly fails verification.

What I need (very specific) to recommend the right intermediate
Please tell me the contents/IDs you see when you go to the web update screen and it lists “package” (not the filenames you already posted). Specifically:

1) In the web UI, what are the options you have?
- “Update Firmware” (full package) or only “Update System” / “Update Application”
2) When you click the option for package, which file names are offered? (or paste the package tar.gz name, e.g. something like ICOM_Next-package-xxxxx.tar.gz / ICOM_Next-pkg-xxxxx.tar.gz / similar)

What to do right now (most likely fix)
Do NOT try to flash only rootfs-012542 on top of your existing System/App 01.25.10 if the update UI expects a matching package set.

Instead:

• Reboot ICOM Next
• Use the web UI option that updates the full firmware/package (the one that includes rootfs + app + package image)
• If there’s a “PACKAGE” tar.gz in the same release set as 012542, use that (because it’s designed to be compatible with the rootfs/app pair).

Why you see “upload phase is so fast”
That’s typical when the tool is not actually receiving data normally—it may already have cached the image, or it performs a quick “handshake + verification + staging” step and then fails during the actual write/verify step (which matches your exact error: system verify failed).

If you paste the package firmware filename you have for 012542 (or what the UI offers for “package”), I’ll tell you whether you should use:

• only the full package, or
• a specific intermediate package/rootfs version to bridge from 01.25.10 to 01.25.42.

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