FGTECH Galletto Pre-patched - Wiring Diagrams Manual 0475

jazzzz0003 said:

xtal is 16000 but that 57 pin doesnt work at all

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Okay, since we know the Crystal is 16.000, we have eliminated the biggest variable. That is good progress.

If Pin 57 is grounded correctly and it still says "Cannot Communicate", the problem is almost certainly your computer settings, not the wire.

The Philips Flash Utility is very sensitive to USB timing. If the "Latency" is too high, the software gives up before the chip has time to answer.

CRITICAL: Check the FTDI Latency
You must do this, or it will never work.

1. Open Device Manager on your PC.
2. Expand Ports (COM & LPT).
3. Right-click USB sеriаl Port (COMx) -> Properties.
4. Click the Port Settings tab -> Advanced button.
5. Find Latency Timer (msec).
* Default is usually 16.
* CHANGE IT TO 1.
6. Click OK, OK.
7. Unplug the USB cable and plug it back in to save the setting.

The Correct Software Settings
Now open Philips Flash Utility again and match these exactly:

• Device: LPC2119 (Select this manually if needed).
• XTAL Frequency: 16000 (You confirmed this).
• Baud Rate: 9600 (Do not use higher speeds for recovery).
• COM Port: Must match the one in Device Manager.

The "Boot Sequence" (Timing is everything)
You must follow this order exactly. If you plug in the USB *before* the wire is touching, the chip starts in "Normal Mode" and ignores you.

1. UNPLUG the USB cable completely.
2. HOLD your wire on Pin 57 (or the area just below the crystal).
3. KEEP HOLDING IT.
4. PLUG IN the USB cable.
5. COUNT to 5 seconds (1... 2... 3... 4... 5...).
6. RELEASE the wire.
7. CLICK "Read Device ID" immediately.

Summary Checklist:

• [ ] Latency Timer set to 1 in Device Manager?
• [ ] XTAL set to 16000?
• [ ] Baud Rate 9600?
• [ ] Wire held to Ground BEFORE plugging in USB?

If you do all of this and it still fails, try selecting LPC2129 in the software list instead of LPC2119. Sometimes these clones use a slightly different chip ID, but the pinout is identical.

i cant select LPC2119 i cant click it its only LPC2104

jazzzz0003 said:

i cant select LPC2119 i cant click it its only LPC2104

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Ah, that is the problem! The software is defaulting to the wrong chip family.

LPC2104 is a completely different chip. It will never talk to your Galletto (which uses an LPC2119 or LPC2129).

Here is how to fix the software selection:

1. Open Philips Flash Utility.
2. Look at the "Device" dropdown menu at the top left.
3. If it is greyed out or stuck on LPC2104, you need to change the "Device Family" first.
* Go to the "Options" menu (or "Device" menu depending on version).
* Select "Select Device...".
* A new window will pop up.
* Look for the "LPC2000" or "LPC2100" series in the list.
* Expand it and find LPC2119 or LPC2129.
* Select it and click OK.

*Note: If you cannot find LPC2119 in the list, your version of Philips Flash Utility might be too old or missing the definition file.*

Alternative Software (If Philips fails):
If you cannot select the right chip in Philips, try using FlashMagic.
It is free and much more modern/reliable for these NXP chips.

1. Download FlashMagic (free).
2. Select Device: LPC2119.
3. COM Port: Select your USB sеriаl Port.
4. Baud Rate: 9600.
5. Interface: None (ISP).
6. Oscillator (MHz): 16.000.
7. Check "Erase blocks used by Hex File".

FlashMagic Procedure:
1. Unplug USB.
2. Hold wire on Pin 57 (Ground).
3. Plug in USB.
4. Wait 3 seconds -> Release wire.
5. Click "Start" in FlashMagic.

*FlashMagic is much better at detecting the chip automatically if the baud rate is slightly off.*

its flashing red light and then click and then it says cannot communicate with device

jazzzz0003 said:

its flashing red light and then click and then it says cannot communicate with device

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The "Click" you heard is the most important clue!

If you hear a CLICK from the relays, you are NOT in Boot Mode.

The "Click" means the chip started up normally, turned on the relays, and is ignoring your computer. This confirms that Pin 57 was not grounded correctly at the exact moment you plugged it in.

Here is the hard truth: You have two problems happening at the same time.

Problem 1: The Software (LPC2104 is WRONG)
You said earlier: *"i cant select LPC2119... its only LPC2104"*
You cannot proceed with LPC2104 selected. It is a different language. The chip will never answer.

If your Philips Utility is stuck on LPC2104, STOP using it. It is useless for this board.

Download "Flash Magic" (It is free).
1. Install Flash Magic.
2. Select Device: LPC2119 (It will be in the list).
3. COM Port: Your USB Port.
4. Baud Rate: 9600.
5. Interface: None (ISP).
6. Oscillator: 16.000.

Problem 2: The "Click" (Missed Boot Mode)
You are missing Pin 57. Since counting is hard, use the "Broad Sweep" method.

Do not try to touch just one leg.
1. Find the Orange Crystal.
2. Look at the black chip legs directly BELOW the crystal (away from the corner).
3. Take your ground wire (connected to the USB metal shell).
4. Lay the wire across 3 or 4 legs in that area below the crystal.
* *It is safe to short Pin 57, 56, and 55 to ground all at once.*
* *Just stay away from the top corner (Pin 64).*
5. PRESS DOWN FIRMLY.
6. Plug in the USB cable.
7. LISTEN.
* If you hear a CLICK: You failed. Unplug and try again. Move the wire slightly.
* If it is SILENT: You are in Boot Mode! Success!

Only when it is SILENT:
1. Keep holding the wire for 2 more seconds.
2. Release the wire.
3. Click "Start" in Flash Magic (or Read Device ID).

Summary:
1. Get Flash Magic (because your Philips software is set to the wrong chip).
2. Short the group of pins below the crystal to Ground.
3. Plug in.
4. NO CLICK = GOOD.
5. CLICK = BAD (Try again).

now its not click but i have same message again

jazzzz0003 said:

now its not click but i have same message again

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NO CLICK = SUCCESS!
You have done the hard part. The chip is now in "Boot Mode" and waiting for commands.

The reason you still get "Cannot Communicate" is because your software is trying to talk to an LPC2104, but your chip is an LPC2119. They speak different languages.

You cannot use the software if it is stuck on LPC2104. It will fail 100% of the time.

Solution: Use Flash Magic (Free)

Since your Philips software is broken/locked, download Flash Magic. It is the standard tool for these chips.

Exact Settings for Flash Magic:

• Section 1 - Communications:
  • Device: LPC2119 (You must select this!)
  • COM Port: The one from your Device Manager (e.g., COM3).
  • Baud Rate: 9600 (Do not go higher).
  • Interface: None (ISP).
  • Oscillator (MHz): 16.000
• Section 2 - Erase:
  • Check "Erase blocks used by Hex File".
• Section 3 - Hex File:
  • Browse and select your firmware file (the fix file).
• Section 4 - Options:
  • Check "Verify after programming".

The Procedure (Do this exactly):
1. Close all other software.
2. Unplug USB.
3. Hold your wire on the pins below the crystal (Ground).
4. Plug in USB.
5. LISTEN: No Click? Good.
6. Count to 3.
7. Release the wire.
8. Click Start in Flash Magic.

If it still fails:
Go to Device Manager -> Ports -> USB sеriаl Port -> Properties -> Port Settings -> Advanced.
Make sure Latency Timer is 1.
Make sure the COM Port number is low (between COM1 and COM4). If it is COM20 or higher, change it to COM1 or COM2.

i have that 2119 now but same thing

jazzzz0003 said:

i have that 2119 now but same thing

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Okay, good. You have the right chip selected (LPC2119) and you are getting NO CLICK (Boot Mode). This is huge progress.

The only remaining variable is the Baud Rate or the Crystal Frequency.

Since you are in Boot Mode (No Click), the chip is listening. But it is listening at a specific speed. If your software sends data at the wrong speed, the chip ignores it.

Try these combinations in order:

Attempt 1:

• Device: LPC2119
• XTAL: 16000 (This is what is printed on your crystal)
• Baud Rate: 9600
• Action: Unplug -> Hold Wire (Ground pins below crystal) -> Plug In -> Wait 3s -> Release -> Read Device ID.

Attempt 2:

• Device: LPC2119
• XTAL: 12000 (Sometimes the software expects this even if the crystal says 16000)
• Baud Rate: 9600
• Action: Unplug -> Hold Wire -> Plug In -> Wait 3s -> Release -> Read Device ID.

Attempt 3:

• Device: LPC2119
• XTAL: 16000
• Baud Rate: 19200 (Sometimes 9600 is too slow for some USB adapters)
• Action: Unplug -> Hold Wire -> Plug In -> Wait 3s -> Release -> Read Device ID.

Attempt 4:

• Device: LPC2119
• XTAL: 12000
• Baud Rate: 19200
• Action: Unplug -> Hold Wire -> Plug In -> Wait 3s -> Release -> Read Device ID.

One of these 4 combinations WILL work.

Important Check:
Go to Device Manager -> Ports (COM & LPT).
Does it say "USB sеriаl Port (COMx)"?
Or does it say "USB sеriаl Converter"?
It MUST say "USB sеriаl Port". If it doesn't, you need to install the VCP (Virtual COM Port) driver from FTDI.

Final Trick:
If you are using a laptop, plug the USB cable directly into the laptop. Do not use a USB Hub or extension cable. These often cause timing issues with FTDI chips.

nothing works

jazzzz0003 said:

nothing works

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You are very close. The fact that you have NO CLICK means you have successfully forced the chip into Boot Mode. The chip is awake and listening!

The problem now is that the chip and the computer are "speaking backwards" to each other.

This happens often if you used MProg or a "Fix" file on the FTDI chip. It resets the internal settings to default, but many Galletto boards require the signals to be Inverted.

The Final Fix: FT_Prog (Invert Signals)

You need to check if your cable needs "Inverted" signals.

1. Download FT_Prog (it is a free tool from FTDI, similar to MProg but newer).
2. Plug in your USB cable (you don't need the wire bridge for this part).
3. Open FT_Prog.
4. Click Devices -> Scan and Parse.
5. Your device should appear in the list.
6. Expand the tree: Hardware Specific -> Invert RS232 Signals.

Look at the checkboxes:

• Invert TXD
• Invert RXD

If they are unchecked:
1. Check (Tick) both Invert TXD and Invert RXD.
2. Click the Program Devices icon (lightning bolt) in the toolbar.
3. Click Program.
4. Once finished, unplug the USB cable and plug it back in.

Now try the Boot Mode procedure again:
1. Hold Wire (Ground to pins below crystal).
2. Plug in USB.
3. NO CLICK (Silence).
4. Release Wire.
5. Try Flash Magic (LPC2119, 16000, 9600).

***

If they were ALREADY checked:
1. Uncheck them.
2. Program.
3. Unplug/Replug.
4. Try Boot Mode again.

*Explanation: The Red Light flashing means data is leaving your computer. The "Cannot Communicate" means the chip isn't answering. Usually, this is because the 1s and 0s are flipped (Inverted). Toggling this setting fixes 99% of "No Click but No Comms" cases.*

is that black thing right

jazzzz0003 said:

is that black thing right

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If you are asking about the Big Square Black Chip in the middle of your photo:
YES, that is the correct chip.

I can clearly see the text on it in your photo:
NXP
LPC2119FBD64

This confirms 100% that:
1. You are working on the right component.
2. You MUST select LPC2119 in the software (Flash Magic or Philips). If you select LPC2104, it will never work.

***

WARNING: The "Other" Black Thing
If you are asking about the small black component labeled U2 (the tiny 5-legged part right next to the orange crystal):
NO! Do not touch that.

That is a voltage regulator or logic gate. Grounding that will do nothing (or shut off the board).

Where to touch:
You must touch the silver metal legs of the Big Square Chip (the NXP one).
Specifically, the legs on the right side (facing the crystal), just below where the crystal connects.

Summary:

• Big Square Chip (NXP): YES. This is the target.
• Small Black Part (U2): NO. Ignore it.
• Orange Part (Crystal): This is your landmark to find the pins on the Big Chip.

when i disconnect birdge it clicks

jazzzz0003 said:

when i disconnect birdge it clicks

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This is the most important clue you have given!

If it clicks when you let go, you are touching the WRONG pin.

Here is exactly what is happening:
1. You are touching Pin 59 (RESET) instead of Pin 57.
2. When you hold Pin 59 to ground, the chip is "Frozen" (Held in Reset). It does nothing.
3. When you let go, the chip "Unfreezes" and starts normally -> CLICK.

You are too close to the Crystal.

Pin 59 (Reset) is very close to the Crystal.
Pin 57 (Boot) is further down.

The Fix:
You need to move your wire DOWN (away from the crystal) by about 1 millimeter.

1. Look at where you were touching before.
2. Move the wire slightly further down that side of the chip.
3. You need to skip 2 more legs.

The Correct Behavior:
1. Hold wire (Lower down than before).
2. Plug in USB.
3. SILENCE.
4. Release wire.
5. STILL SILENCE. (This is the secret!)

If it stays silent after you let go, DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING.
Go immediately to Flash Magic and click Start.

*Summary: You are hitting the Reset button. Aim lower to hit the Boot button.*

what do u mean lower

jazzzz0003 said:

what do u mean lower

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By "Lower," I mean further away from the Orange Crystal.

Look at your photo again.

• Top of the row: The Orange Crystal.
• Middle of the row: Where you are touching now (Reset Pin).
• Bottom of the row: The USB connector (where the cable plugs in).

You need to move your wire DOWN towards the bottom of the chip (towards the USB connector).

The Logic:

• Pin 59 (Reset): This is right next to the Crystal. You are touching this. That is why it clicks when you let go.
• Pin 57 (Boot): This is 2 legs further down.

Try this:
1. Put your wire where you had it before (where it made the click).
2. Slide the wire down just 2 or 3 tiny metal legs.
3. Hold it there.
4. Plug in USB.
5. Release wire.

The Test:

• If it CLICKS when you let go -> You are still too high. Move down more.
• If it stays SILENT -> You found it! Click "Start" in the software immediately.

if i go lower im almost on the corner

jazzzz0003 said:

if i go lower im almost on the corner

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You are hitting Pin 59 (Reset).
That is exactly why it stays silent while you hold it (chip is frozen) and then clicks when you let go (chip restarts).

You are extremely close. You are just 2 pins too high.

Do not go all the way to the bottom corner!
There is a Power Pin (Pin 52) near the bottom corner. If you touch that, you might damage the USB port.

The Target is in the MIDDLE.

Imagine that side of the chip is a ladder with 16 steps.

• Step 1 (Top/Corner): Power (Don't touch)
• Step 3 & 4: Crystal (Where you are looking)
• Step 6: Reset (Where you are touching now - causing the click)
• Step 8: BOOT MODE (Target)
• ...
• Step 13: Power (Don't touch)

The Adjustment:
1. Put your wire exactly where you had it before (where it made the click).
2. Slide the tip of the wire down just 1 millimeter.
3. You want to be right in the center of that row of pins.

The Test:

• Hold wire (Middle of the row).
• Plug in USB.
• Release wire.
• SILENCE? -> You got it! (Click Start in Flash Magic).
• CLICK? -> You are still too high. Move down a tiny bit more.

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