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Almost always real-time AV scanning. A 35 GB self-extracting archive means Defender (or whatever AV you run) inspects every file as it lands, and that alone turns a 30-45 minute extract into 6-10 hours. MailBombz flagged the same thing earlier in the thread. Second most common cause is extracting to or from a mechanical HDD, or extracting across two drives so the archive is being read and written on the same spindle.

What I'd do, in order:

  • Cancel the extract and delete the partial output folder — a half-written ISTA tree causes SQLite errors later, exactly like the ones Ross hit.
  • Turn off real-time protection, then add a folder exclusion for both the folder holding the .exe and the target folder. On Win 10/11 the exclusion matters more than the toggle, since Defender re-enables real-time protection on its own after a while.
  • If you have other AV (Kaspersky, ESET, Bitdefender, Avast), exclude the same paths there too. Disabling the UI shield usually leaves the file system filter driver active.
  • Extract to a local SSD, not a USB drive, not a network share, and not the same physical HDD the archive sits on. You want ~100-150 GB free at peak because the archive and the extracted tree coexist for a while.
  • Run as administrator, and check Task Manager while it runs. If disk stays near 100% at low MB/s you have a slow disk; if MsMpEng.exe or your AV process is chewing CPU, the exclusion did not take.

One more thing worth ruling out first: verify the download itself completed. A truncated or partially corrupt SFX can crawl and then fail near the end. Compare the file size against what's listed on the resource page before you spend hours on it.

If it still crawls after that, post:

  • exact size in bytes of BMW_ISTA+4.60.13_Standalone.exe as it sits on your disk
  • source and target drive type (SSD/NVMe/HDD/USB) and free space
  • AV in use
  • a screenshot of Task Manager's Performance tab (Disk + CPU) while extraction is running

That'll tell us whether it's the scanner, the disk or a bad download.
 

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@Gemini how do I install the program on an external drive? I can't even run the installer on my other pc because the main drive is too small for ISTA
 

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how do I install the program on an external drive? I can't even run the installer on my other pc bec...

The installer itself can target an external drive, but the self-extracting archive still uses your system temp folder during the initial unpack phase, which is usually on C:. That's likely where you're hitting the space limit.

Two approaches:

If your C: has at least ~10-15 GB free temporarily:
  • Run the BMWISTA+4.60.13Standalone.exe with AV exclusions in place (see my previous reply)
  • When the actual installer GUI appears after extraction, choose your external drive as the destination (e.g., E:\BMW\ISTA or whatever drive letter you have)
  • The installer will put everything there, and once it finishes the temp extraction files on C: get cleaned up automatically

If C: really has no room at all:
  • Use 7-Zip or WinRAR to manually extract the .exe to the external drive first — right-click the .exe, Extract to folder, pick the external drive. This skips the built-in unpacker and its temp-folder requirement.
  • Once extracted, navigate into that folder and run Setup.exe (or whichever installer executable is inside), and point it to a final location on the same external drive or another path.

Registry consideration for external drives:
If you install to an external drive and later use D-CAN (K+DCAN cable), ISTA hardcodes some paths in the registry at install time. If the drive letter changes (your E: becomes F: on another PC), D-CAN won't initialize. The workaround is either keep the same drive letter consistent, or manually fix the registry paths in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Softing\CANoe\EDIABAS after moving the drive. ENET and ICOM don't have this issue since they don't rely on those local driver paths.

Also make sure the external drive is USB 3.0 or faster — ISTA's SQLite databases are IO-heavy and a USB 2.0 drive will make the interface painfully slow.
 

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The installer itself can target an external drive, but the self-extracting archive still uses your system temp folder during the initial unpack phase, which is usually on C:. That's likely where you're hitting the space limit.

Two approaches:

If your C: has at least ~10-15 GB free temporarily:
  • Run the BMWISTA+4.60.13Standalone.exe with AV exclusions in place (see my previous reply)
  • When the actual installer GUI appears after extraction, choose your external drive as the destination (e.g., E:\BMW\ISTA or whatever drive letter you have)
  • The installer will put everything there, and once it finishes the temp extraction files on C: get cleaned up automatically

If C: really has no room at all:
  • Use 7-Zip or WinRAR to manually extract the .exe to the external drive first — right-click the .exe, Extract to folder, pick the external drive. This skips the built-in unpacker and its temp-folder requirement.
  • Once extracted, navigate into that folder and run Setup.exe (or whichever installer executable is inside), and point it to a final location on the same external drive or another path.

Registry consideration for external drives:
If you install to an external drive and later use D-CAN (K+DCAN cable), ISTA hardcodes some paths in the registry at install time. If the drive letter changes (your E: becomes F: on another PC), D-CAN won't initialize. The workaround is either keep the same drive letter consistent, or manually fix the registry paths in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Softing\CANoe\EDIABAS after moving the drive. ENET and ICOM don't have this issue since they don't rely on those local driver paths.

Also make sure the external drive is USB 3.0 or faster — ISTA's SQLite databases are IO-heavy and a USB 2.0 drive will make the interface painfully slow.
@Gemini my C drive has 80gb free, but I get an error that there's not enough space. Windows defender real time protection is disabled, fresh Win 10 x64 installation
 

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my C drive has 80gb free, but I get an error that there's not enough space. Windows defender real ti...

That's strange — 80 GB should be plenty for the temp extraction phase. A few things to check:

Where exactly does the error appear?
Is it during the initial "Extracting files..." phase (before any installer GUI shows up), or does it happen later when the actual Setup window appears and you pick a destination?

Check your actual temp folder location:
Open CMD and run:
Code:
echo %TEMP%
Then check how much free space is on whatever drive that path points to. Windows default is C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Local\Temp, but some systems have TEMP redirected to another partition or even a RAM disk that's too small.

If the temp path is fine but the error persists:
The self-extractor might be hitting a different internal limit or the download is corrupted. Skip the built-in unpacker entirely:
  • Right-click BMWISTA+4.60.13Standalone.exe, choose 7-Zip > Extract to folder (or use WinRAR)
  • Extract directly to your external drive
  • Once done, go into that extracted folder and run the actual Setup.exe you find inside
  • Point Setup to your final install location

This bypasses whatever the self-extractor is complaining about and works even if the built-in unpacker has some weird edge-case bug on fresh Win 10 installs.
 

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That's strange — 80 GB should be plenty for the temp extraction phase. A few things to check:

Where exactly does the error appear?
Is it during the initial "Extracting files..." phase (before any installer GUI shows up), or does it happen later when the actual Setup window appears and you pick a destination?

Check your actual temp folder location:
Open CMD and run:
Code:
echo %TEMP%
Then check how much free space is on whatever drive that path points to. Windows default is C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Local\Temp, but some systems have TEMP redirected to another partition or even a RAM disk that's too small.

If the temp path is fine but the error persists:
The self-extractor might be hitting a different internal limit or the download is corrupted. Skip the built-in unpacker entirely:
  • Right-click BMWISTA+4.60.13Standalone.exe, choose 7-Zip > Extract to folder (or use WinRAR)
  • Extract directly to your external drive
  • Once done, go into that extracted folder and run the actual Setup.exe you find inside
  • Point Setup to your final install location

This bypasses whatever the self-extractor is complaining about and works even if the built-in unpacker has some weird edge-case bug on fresh Win 10 installs.
@Gemini it happens when I click to run the installer, input the password and then the error appears: There is not enough free disk space on C:\Users\MyName\Appdata\Roaming\BMW Group\BMW Group ISTA 4.60.13.33640\install
There isn't even such a directory on my pc
 

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it happens when I click to run the installer, input the password and then the error appears: There i...

That error message is actually the answer: the destination you pick in the GUI is not where the payload lands first. This package stages the full extracted tree into %APPDATA%\BMW Group\BMW Group ISTA 4.60.13.33640\install on C: before it moves anything, so it needs roughly the whole unpacked size free on C:, not 10-15 GB. With a 35 GB compressed archive, 80 GB free is below what the pre-flight space check wants. And the folder not existing yet is normal — the installer checks free space on the path before it creates it.

Three ways around it, easiest first.

1. Junction the staging folder to your external drive
Cleanest fix, no registry edits, and the installer's space check follows the junction to the external volume. Create the folder on the external drive, then in an admin CMD:

Code:
mkdir E:\BMWGroupStaging
mklink /J "C:\Users\MyName\AppData\Roaming\BMW Group" "E:\BMWGroupStaging"

Replace E: with your external drive letter and MyName with your actual profile name. C:\Users\MyName\AppData\Roaming\BMW Group must not exist when you run mklink, otherwise it errors out. Then run the installer again. When everything is done and working you can delete the junction with rmdir "C:\Users\MyName\AppData\Roaming\BMW Group" (that removes the link, not the files behind it).

2. Skip the self-extractor entirely
Right-click the .exe, 7-Zip > Extract to, point it at the external drive, enter the password when prompted. Then run the setup executable from inside the extracted folder. This avoids the AppData staging path altogether.

3. Free up C: properly
If you'd rather keep it stock, plan for around 150 GB free on C: during install. On a fresh Win 10 box the usual wins are the Windows.old folder, hibernation file (powercfg /h off), and the pagefile moved temporarily.

Whichever route you take, keep the external drive letter stable afterwards. As mentioned earlier, D-CAN paths get written into the registry at install time and break if the letter changes.

Two things that would help if it still fails: your external drive's letter and free space, and whether it's USB 3.0 or 2.0. USB 2.0 will work but the extract will be painfully slow on a 35 GB package.
 

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That error message is actually the answer: the destination you pick in the GUI is not where the payload lands first. This package stages the full extracted tree into %APPDATA%\BMW Group\BMW Group ISTA 4.60.13.33640\install on C: before it moves anything, so it needs roughly the whole unpacked size free on C:, not 10-15 GB. With a 35 GB compressed archive, 80 GB free is below what the pre-flight space check wants. And the folder not existing yet is normal — the installer checks free space on the path before it creates it.

Three ways around it, easiest first.

1. Junction the staging folder to your external drive
Cleanest fix, no registry edits, and the installer's space check follows the junction to the external volume. Create the folder on the external drive, then in an admin CMD:

Code:
mkdir E:\BMWGroupStaging
mklink /J "C:\Users\MyName\AppData\Roaming\BMW Group" "E:\BMWGroupStaging"

Replace E: with your external drive letter and MyName with your actual profile name. C:\Users\MyName\AppData\Roaming\BMW Group must not exist when you run mklink, otherwise it errors out. Then run the installer again. When everything is done and working you can delete the junction with rmdir "C:\Users\MyName\AppData\Roaming\BMW Group" (that removes the link, not the files behind it).

2. Skip the self-extractor entirely
Right-click the .exe, 7-Zip > Extract to, point it at the external drive, enter the password when prompted. Then run the setup executable from inside the extracted folder. This avoids the AppData staging path altogether.

3. Free up C: properly
If you'd rather keep it stock, plan for around 150 GB free on C: during install. On a fresh Win 10 box the usual wins are the Windows.old folder, hibernation file (powercfg /h off), and the pagefile moved temporarily.

Whichever route you take, keep the external drive letter stable afterwards. As mentioned earlier, D-CAN paths get written into the registry at install time and break if the letter changes.

Two things that would help if it still fails: your external drive's letter and free space, and whether it's USB 3.0 or 2.0. USB 2.0 will work but the extract will be painfully slow on a 35 GB package.
@Gemini I used the first method of linking directories, it kind of worked, but now this happens: I run the .exe, enter password, see a screen of "extracting files" for one second and then a windows error appears saying it's not a valid windows installer
 

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I used the first method of linking directories, it kind of worked, but now this happens: I run the ....

Good — the space check is satisfied now, so the junction did its job. The new error is a different failure: the self-extractor is unpacking, writing the first payload file to the junction target, failing immediately, and then the installer stub reports the staged file as invalid. Two things cause that in this order of likelihood.

1. External drive filesystem
Check it first, it's a 5-second check. Right-click the external drive, Properties, read the File system line.
  • FAT32 — guaranteed failure. Hard 4 GB per-file limit, and ISTA's SQLiteDBs and PSdZData files are well past that. The write dies mid-file, which matches your one-second extract.
  • exFAT — no size limit, but no ACL support and no proper reparse point semantics. Installers that set permissions on the staging tree frequently break on it. I'd not trust it for this.
  • NTFS — correct, move on to point 2.
If it's FAT32 or exFAT, reformat to NTFS (destroys the data, so move the archive off first) or use convert E: /fs:ntfs for FAT32 in an admin CMD.

2. Archive integrity
"Not a valid Windows installer" is also the classic symptom of a truncated or partially downloaded archive. With 35 GB, a resumed or browser-interrupted download is common. Check:
  • The size on disk of BMW_ISTA+4.60.13_Standalone.exe against the size listed on the download page.
  • If the release came as multiple parts (.part1.exe, .part2.rar, .bin, etc.), that every part is present, in one folder, and none is short. A missing final part behaves exactly like this.

Before any retry
Delete the contents of E:\BMWGroupStaging so no half-written payload is left behind, and confirm the junction is actually live:

Code:
dir /AL "C:\Users\MyName\AppData\Roaming"

You should see <JUNCTION> BMW Group [E:\BMWGroupStaging]. If it shows as a normal <DIR>, the link didn't take and the installer is writing to C: again.

Worth ruling out — if the drive is USB and it's spinning down or renegotiating the link mid-write, extraction dies instantly with a generic error. Try a rear USB port directly on the motherboard, no hub, and disable USB selective suspend in the power plan.

If NTFS and the archive checks out, go to method 2 from my last post: 7-Zip right-click, Extract to, straight onto the external drive, then run the setup executable from inside. That skips the staging path entirely and, as a bonus, 7-Zip will tell you outright if the archive is damaged instead of hiding it behind a vague installer error.

To narrow it further, post the external drive's file system, the exact file name(s) and byte size of what you downloaded, and a screenshot of the error dialog.
 
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